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The immobility of Islam

Sunday 15th August 2010 21:39 in Religion, Society | 28 views logged | No comments

Visiting a typical London shopping centre today, I observed that around 50% of the shoppers were of Arabic or Indian descent and a great many women wore hijabs, burqas or niqabs. This is quite normal in London now (as it is across many cities in the United Kingdom).

It reminded me of the standard liberal riposte that Muslims in “our” society are likely to convert to the ways of liberalism and all will be rosy in the future. Timely, then, that I also noticed this article by Sam Harris in which he explains the first problem with this view:

“When one reads the Koran and the hadith, and consults the opinions of Muslim jurists over the centuries, one discovers that killing apostates, treating women like livestock, and waging jihad—not merely as an inner, spiritual struggle but as holy war against infidels—are practices that are central to the faith.

Granted, one path out of this madness might be for mainstream Muslims to simply pretend that this isn’t so—and by this pretense persuade the next generation that the “true” Islam is peaceful, tolerant of difference, egalitarian, and fully compatible with a global civil society.

But the holy books remain forever to be consulted, and no one will dare to edit them. Consequently, the most barbarous and divisive passages in these texts will remain forever open to being given their most plausible interpretations.”

- Sam Harris

The second one is mentioned by Christopher Caldwell in his Reflections on the Revolution in Europe:

“Along the road to European modernization (literacy, empowerment, individualism and so on) lie the shopping mall, the pierced navel, online gambling, a 50 per cent divorce rate and a high rate of anomie and self-loathing. What makes us so certain that that Europeanization is the road that immigrants will want to travel?”

“There are many .. models for immigration, and not all of them end with the “absorption” of the newcomers into the host country: the arrival of a few hundred British adventurers in India in the eighteenth century was an immigration, and so was the settlement of ambitious ranchers in the early nieteenth century in New Spain (now Texas). Immigration enhances strong countries and cultures, but it can overwhelm weak [decandent] ones.”

- Christopher Caldwell

They don’t seem to have a problem with the shopping mall, but the western female preference for not having children until the late 30s (if at all) doesn’t sit well with their faith and nor do the other practices Caldwell mentions. They must eye us, and understandably, as a culture unsure of its values, and in decadent decline. By contrast, when you have faith, you have certainty and purpose.

Hence we can see that the dictates of totalitarian Islam must be rejected along with those of excessive liberalism, for together they present a threat to civilised society.

Vote to have the religious slaughter exemption repealed

Thursday 8th July 2010 22:22 in Religion | 62 views logged | No comments

I’m really not writing as much these days, for two reasons:

Firstly I have been exceptionally busy with work. Secondly, I don’t feel the need quite as much. This is no doubt partly because I have been exceptionally busy with work: I haven’t been out  as much, meaning I haven’t seen as much. But another reason I don’t feel the need quite as much is that Labour are out of power.

It feels almost as if a bunch of criminals have been ousted. Sweet relief, and optimism about the future.

One the the things the new coalition has done (already!) is create a website specifically for us to be able to tell it about the stupid, unnecessary laws that Labour introduced and upheld which they can now repeal. This is a golden opportunity to complain about the exemptions allowed for ritual animal slaughter.

I have written the following:

“It’s a shame that “mabon2010″ had the first comment on this, as this person presents no evidence whatsoever for their claims. It has, on the contrary, been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that ritual slaughter is far less humane than pre-stunning. There has also been FAWC concern specifically about the careless handling of animals in religious slaughterhouses.

There is *no* justifiable reason for this exemption to still exist. The only reason is does is blatant appeasement. “The appeaser”, said Churchill, “is the one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last”. Let’s repeal this law ASAP.”

You can make your comment here. Unlike the “petitions” website run by the previous government, which was just a cynical means of placating the people, I believe this one will be listened to. Let’s see.

Frank Miller on the threat from Islam

Sunday 28th March 2010 21:02 in Religion | 246 views logged | No comments

I was just reading up about comic book creator and film director Frank Miller and I reached the section on his political views, in particular his views on the war in Iraq and the threat of Islam as it spreads across the western world. I presumed I was about to read the usual leftist views about how Bush is a war criminal etc. so imagine my surprise when I read the following:

“It seems to me quite obvious that our country and the entire Western World is up against an existential force that knows exactly what it wants … and we’re behaving like a collapsing empire.

For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we’re up against, and the sixth-century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people’s heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us.

I’m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I’m living in a city where 3000 of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built.

Nobody questions why we, after Pearl Harbor, attacked Nazi Germany. It was because we were taking on a form of global fascism, we’re doing the same thing now.”

- Frank Miller

So rarely do we even get to hear a contrary, politically incorrect, view like this that it is well worth posting here, though it is likely to rile many a multiculturalist liberal.

An evening in central London

Tuesday 16th March 2010 01:02 in Music, Religion | 202 views logged | No comments

These days I spend most of my time either working or at the gym. I rarely listen to the radio, because Radio 4, the only station offering relatively intelligent programmes, is excruciatingly politically correct. The music on Radio 3 (especially late in the evening) often seems to consist of little more than dustbin lids being hit along with a triangle being pinged – this is endearing, in a sense, but becomes tiresome. Classic FM plays reliably good classical pieces, but is slightly dumbed down by some of its “celebrity DJs” and of course one has to tolerate the same, usually fatuous, adverts being played hour after hour, week after week. Fortunately there is Internet radio offering a multitude of channels from all over the world, free of charge with no adverts.

What of the television? I don’t watch that either. I don’t have a TV license, so I never pay the BBC anything and I don’t have to endure any television advertising at all. This brings great peace of mind. I do sometimes see cinema advertising however, and it is often especially insulting, with a predictably vulgar offering from that common brand French Connection being a memorable recent offender.

Again, many things worth watching can be watched on the Internet. I usually, in any case, find creating more satisfying than consuming, so none of these media are a great loss. The peace of mind brought about by avoiding cretinous advertising is alas soon unsettled, I have noticed, by even the briefest exposure to the general public during the average outing into central London. The most likely word you will overhear as you pass someone (probably smoking) on the pavement remains “f**k”. You need to check where you’re going to sit on the Underground as you get onto a train.

This evening my wife and I ate in a Mexican style restaurant on Leicester Square. We were treated to the usual customer service in any such place: nearly none – the polar opposite of American service. The food was okay, but the experience was ruined by the presence of a very self-centred girl sitting nearby who spoke very loudly about herself for the entire time (not an unusual phenomenon in London). By the end of our visit there (and we made haste to leave) we were acquainted with every tedious detail of her unremarkable life. So was everybody else nearby. In a case like this it’s hard to know what to do. If the person even sees you looking, this will likely feed their ego (they almost certainly misinterpret it as interest in them), which is of course the last thing you want to happen. If you get up and ask them to keep their voice down, well, you will likely receive a mouthful of abuse, they will complain to management and you will be asked to leave. If you complain to management, nothing will happen. We did complain: nothing happened. All you can do, really, is leave, and then proceed to face the same problem somewhere else. It doesn’t matter where any more – I’ve experienced inconsiderate behaviour everywhere from McDonald’s to top class hotels.

Following this experience we went along to the The Strand and decided to visit the Savoy hotel, where I had been before, and I was very surprised to see it has closed for a £100 million refurbishment. The rooms were rather shabby, it has to be said, though the reception and bar were nice. Thwarted, we headed over the road to the Strand Palace hotel, where I had not been since the age of 12. The bar here is nice enough, though rather bland and modern, I feel, for a hotel of this title in this area. It’s more like a conference room – and indeed much of the hotel’s business is probably corporate.

Love Never DiesFrom here we made the short walk to the Adelphi Theatre to watch Love Never Dies, Andrew Lloyd Webber’s sequel to his Phantom of the Opera. I am not usually a musical-goer, but this musical has been getting a lot of fanatical reviews full of hatred, so I would like to say here that in my opinion it was excellent. All performances seemed to me flawless, there was not a slow moment during the story (which seemed credible as a sequel) and there were memorable melodies. There’s much more to say about it actually: the costumes were great and so were the sets and special effects. I was particularly impressed by how quickly they changed these elaborate sets – often within seconds. Don’t believe the bitter critics. The show received a standing ovation and for good reason.

We were sitting next to Lord Jeffrey Archer during the performance (he didn’t seem too impressed with the show) and on our way out stood next to none other than “SuBo” (Susan Boyle), who did seem impressed and was quickly ushered into a people carrier which whisked her away. SuBo, of course, has an excellent voice. Trust her, not the vitriolic critics, and go and enjoy Love Never Dies.

When we left the Adelphi we called into a nearby pub. Let’s just say we should have been able to judge the quality of the place from its sign: “Binge drinkers welcome”.

MP calls for burqa ban

Saturday 13th March 2010 11:05 in Religion, Society | 253 views logged | 7 comments

Philip HolloboneBrave MP Philip Hollobone (who also happens to be the “cheapest” MP in Westminster) has come out and called for a complete ban of the burqa in Britain.

This garment is obviously very anti-social. It also indicates a backward mindset which does not value evidence (namely that of Islam) and it is a security risk. All good reasons for it to be banned immediately, but don’t hold your breath in this country of dhimmitude, even if “Call Me Dave” Cameron gets in.

“We are not a Muslim country” says Mr Hollobone. Not for now, I’m sure he realises. But it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the way things are going we will be in due course.

Richard Dawkins’ forums suspended

Thursday 25th February 2010 12:16 in Human Relations, Religion | 1,083 views logged | 2 comments

It’s hardly the biggest news in the world. Given some of the panic on the web one would think whole of the Internet was due to be shut down. Richard Dawkins’ web forums have been suspended pending an overdue clean up. I’ve been commenting at length on this here.

My original article critical of his forums has been receiving a massive amount of traffic, mainly from a cesspit of substandard debate which makes the Dawkins forums look as if they were frequented exclusively by leading intellectuals.

I have been called “an absolute f**king c**t” on this forum, as they flounder to find some fault in my argument. Finding nothing it can criticise validly, the inferior mind resorts to vulgarity. This is nothing, though, compared with what technical admin Josh has been receiving over at RD.net – an avalanche of despicable abuse which has motivated Richard Dawkins himself to make a statement.

What truly, utterly pathetic people these are who have nothing better to do than mail abuse to people because their crutch (an Internet forum not even on their own site) has been taken away (because of misbehaviour of contributors and moderators, mind you). If ever the phrase “Get a life” was relevant, it’s now.

Richard Dawkins has certainly received a wake up call as to what was going on at his forum, as he says himself above. This, despite him having said this previously, when writing of the marvels of the Internet:

“Of course there are negative aspects, but they are easily forgiven. I’ve already referred to the lamentable content of many chat room conversations without editorial control.

The tendency to flaming rudeness is fostered by the convention — whose sociological provenance we might discuss one day — of anonymity.

Insults and obscenities, to which you would not dream of signing your real name, flow gleefully from the keyboard when you are masquerading online as ‘TinkyWinky’ or ‘FlubPoodle’ or ‘ArchWeasel’.”

Richard Dawkins

To people who have not connected the dots yet, I don’t publish intellectually substandard comments on my site here, so don’t be surprised if your comment isn’t turning up. Don’t even waste your time posting it. That’s one of the benefits of having your own website: you can run it however you like, as you are finding out as Prof Dawkins exercises his executive control. Tough.

I’m going to e-mail some support to Josh now, and then probably have nothing more to do with this debate. It’s just not important enough. If you have any kind of life at all you’ll do the same.

NSS Secularist of the Year award

Wednesday 24th February 2010 18:53 in Human Relations, Religion, Society | 217 views logged | No comments

I’m touching on an issue that is very taboo here: race. While criticism of religion is now fairly passé, if you dare to even remotely question anything to do with perceived wisdom on race you will instantly be branded racist. Oh well, that’s the point here, to challenge the dogmas of political correctness, so here goes.

I recommended Pat Condell for the NSS Secularist of the Year award this year, for having  risked his life in promoting reason and secular values across the world for several years now. I recommended him last year too, but he didn’t win it. He didn’t win it this year either. The award went to The Southall Black Sisters.

Have you heard of them? Me neither. I don’t have time to write a lot on this but I must say there seems only to be a tenuous link with secularism in the work of the “Sisters”. This seems a rather politically correct decision. I would also add that (despite the good work they undoubtedly do) the name “Southall Black Sisters” smacks to me of racism. They say on their site:

“Southall Black Sisters, a not-for-profit organisation, was established in 1979 to meet the needs of black (Asian and African-Caribbean) women. Our aims are to highlight and challenge violence against women; empower them to gain more control over their lives.”

But there is arguably no real need for the emphasis on the “black”. All women should be entitled to fair treatment regardless of colour. If the organisation’s stated mission was to “oppose violence against women” this would of course include black women too. How about standing against domestic violence, full stop? That would be even better and even less biased. (The SBS are “right on the forefront of the feminist struggle in this country”.)

Likewise consider the “Black Police Association”, which Peter Hitchens interestingly referred to as a “grotesque, indefensible body” (read the article). It certainly seems to me very divisive and perhaps even racist. Ask yourself what would happen if some officers decided to form a “White Police Association”.

There is no need to invoke colour in these matters. People can’t have it both ways – they want complete inclusion and yet also insist on delineating themselves by their colour.

This certainly seems a PC decision regarding the award, because Pat Condell has obviously had far more influence in the secular field, and at far more personal risk to himself.

Sadiq Khan MP replies on ritual animal slaughter

Friday 12th February 2010 14:12 in Religion | 293 views logged | 1 comment

Sadiq Khan MPI have finally received a reply from Sadiq Khan, my local MP, to my report detailing government appeasement on ritual animal slaughter.

It took Mr Khan six months to reply. It seems he “overlooked” the report when it arrived, but my December letter has prompted him to finally respond. Maybe Pat Condell’s latest link, increasing its profile, helped prompt some action too.

You can see Mr Khan’s reply and an attachment enclosed, here:

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This is, predictably, a very mealy-mouthed non-reply. Mr Khan is at pains to disagree with me while at the same time trying to make it look as though he agrees with me. Let’s have a look in detail at what he says:

“I appreciate the points you raise.”

“Appreciate” is an an ambiguous word. It can mean “understand”, but it doesn’t necessarily mean “agree”. He does go on to say:

“I agree it may be preferable to [sic] for all animals to be stunned before slaughter to avoid their suffering…”

This essentially says nothing. He might as well have said “may not be preferable”.

“..yet I also accept that religious groups have a right to eat meat in accordance with their beliefs.”

“Accept” is a much stronger word, of course. And indeed they have a “right”? This is a strong assertion indeed. Anyway, Khan’s point here is called begging the question (in the old, correct use of the phrase): he is taking for granted exactly what my report, with bountiful evidence, is questioning, and he is refusing to address the arguments brought to the table.

Mr Khan then says something about a loosely proposed labelling system and has the cheek to enclose the government’s stock response to this matter, photocopied. I have already been sent this by DEFRA, as is everyone who writes to them on this matter. It is a non-reply again.

He then proceeds to tell me some basic information which I have already told him in much greater detail in my report.

At this point it becomes obvious he has probably not even read the report. In fact I’d put money on it (after all he says himself that merely “looked at” it).

Mr Khan next says:

“Please don’t hesitate to make contact if there are any other concerns that you would like to raise with me on this or any other matter, or if you would like me to make further representations to the Government on your behalf.”

This stock sentence is inserted (in a slightly different font size) despite the fact I had specifically asked him in my letter to:

  1. Clearly state his position on the topic of ritual animal slaughter
  2. Raise the topic in parliament on my behalf

He has done neither of these things.

What I would like him to do (as I have already told him) is point out that the law is inconsistent on this matter, and that the lack of labelling is an urgent problem which needs addressing immediately. How dare he, you might well wonder, ask if he can be of any more help when he as pointedly been of no help at all in the first place?

Well, of course, Sadiq Khan’s seat in parliament is safe. Just take a drive down Tooting High Street to see why. He doesn’t want to rock the boat. But what he should do is stand up for what is right: a consistent law for all, with no exemptions for ritual slaughter which causes animals unnecessary pain. Also labelling clearly showing whether animals have been barbarically butchered. Indeed, you might just not want to eat meat that an imam has been praying over – at the moment you don’t even have the right to know about it.

Our society is changing around us. It’s fragmenting. Civilisation seems in many ways to be going into reverse.

What can you do about this?

If you live in the Tooting area this means you vote for Mark Clarke or anyone else but Mr Khan. I’m not to the point of voting for the BNP, though Labour seem hell-bent on pushing everyone in that direction. I will probably vote UKIP or Conservative. I suggest you do the same.

Welcome to Malmø

Monday 8th February 2010 14:01 in Religion | 84 views logged | No comments

We’re having a lot of trouble from Islamisation in the UK, in France, in the Netherlands and in most European countries. But Sweden’s okay, isn’t it?

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Letter to the NSS

Monday 8th February 2010 13:02 in Religion | 80 views logged | No comments

Dear Sir,

This week sees two notable British people proclaiming that the most important thing to them in their lives is their religion. The first is Rizwan Ditta, who has just finished serving a very short prison sentence for possessing material likely to be useful to terrorists. True to the Qur’an, he states “I believe that my loyalties and priorities, even though I’ve been born and bred in England, lie with the Muslims”.

Hot on his heels is Sir Mota Singh QC who is arguing for children (Sikhs) to be allowed to take knives into schools. “The fact that I’m a Sikh matters more to me than anything else,” he said – which would show contempt for the law were it not for the fact that the law allows an exemption in this case for Sikhs, as it does for Muslims and Jews when it comes to ritual animal slaughter. So much for one law for all.

Best regards,

Gavin Orland

Mark Steyn writes…

Sunday 7th February 2010 09:44 in Religion, Society | 87 views logged | No comments

Mark Steyn has posted up some fascinating photos showing that more women wear the hijab in Cairo now than they did in the 1970s. Obviously the number has greatly increased in London too – to the point that I can hardly set foot outside my door without seeing anti-social face coverings and emblems or religious irrationality within seconds. Indicators of the Islamisation of the UK.

Steyn’s experience of liberals matches my own:

“Whenever I give a speech on Islam, some or other complacenik always says, “Oh, but they haven’t had time to Westernize. Just you wait and see. Give it another 20 years, and the siren song of Westernization will work its magic.”

This argument isn’t merely speculative, it’s already been proved wrong by what’s happened over the last 20 years. Compare the Cairo University class of 1959 with those of the 21st century, and then see if you can recite your inevitablist theories of social evolution with a straight face.

The idea that social progress is like the wheel or the internal combustion engine — once invented, it can never be uninvented — is one of the laziest assumptions of the Western Left.”

Pat Condell on Geert Wilders’ trial

Saturday 6th February 2010 17:33 in Politics, Religion | 100 views logged | No comments

Pat says it all, as usual, and very well indeed:

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Quick letter to NSS

Tuesday 2nd February 2010 10:50 in Politics, Religion, Society | 85 views logged | 3 comments

“Geert Wilders (currently on trial for telling the truth in the Netherlands) has again been invited by members of the House of Lords to come and show his short film Fitna there.

The Telegraph reports here that Lord Ahmed has again threatened to mobilise 10,000 Muslims to block Mr Wilders from entering the House of Lords. If this is true then Lord Ahmed should be arrested for breach of the peace. I’m tired of this man’s threats.

Best regards,

Gavin Orland”

Letting the side down

Monday 1st February 2010 15:15 in Religion, Society | 164 views logged | 1 comment

“If people who are highly educated are going to turn anti-social behaviour into a kind of joke, and make of antisocial people heroes for the entire country, you can hardly be surprised when public behaviour deteriorates.”

- Theodore Dalrymple

ApatheticAgain I preface an article with a quotation from Theodore Dalrymple – because the man speaks such sense.

This article is about the place, the company, in which I find myself being an atheist. Recently I attended a secularist social evening. I should first of all say that people cannot really be defined by a negative, but their not believing in God – that is true. I agree with Sam Harris’ concerns about the very term “atheist”. Nonetheless one often notices an apparent moral apathy among non-believers. This is not a necessary connection of course, but a noticeable one nonetheless.

Religious people at least have a book from which they cherry pick the good bits as a moral guide. At least this is typical of Type 1 Christians. Non-believers have no such book. The fact they do not believe says nothing about their morality. Very often they are the kind of atheist who just doesn’t care about anything very much, and is not against religion on intellectual grounds or moral grounds. Its just all too much trouble. Other times, and this is what I think I have noticed in some, especially younger, people in the secular movement, they are against religion mainly because it is seen by them to impose rules. Just to impose rules, which may or may not restrict them.

Liberals, leftists, radicals, these people, it seems to me, are often against religion not because it contains certain inconsistencies or is metaphysically unsound, but actually because it might limit the complete abandon and laissez faire morality so beloved by many liberals. This is unfortunate.

Here is a definition of Humanism found on the British Humanist Association’s website:

“Humanism is an approach to life based on humanity and reason – humanists recognise that moral values are properly founded on human nature and experience alone and that the aims of morality should be human welfare, happiness and fulfillment.”

This is all very well, excellent.. there is more like it on the same page. The funny thing is, one can often observe high profile humanists drinking liberally and smoking habitually. Smoking is of course extremely anti-social and harmful to the individual. I need surely not produce studies to show this. Likewise excessive use of alcohol is very damaging, the UK currently being the binge drinking capital of Europe. Not such good examples to be setting, perhaps.

Not to miss out, leading “Humanists” can also be found getting themselves tattooed. Even asking for sponsorship to do so. But aside from the fact that tattoos are arguably vulgar:

“A study of “at-risk” (as defined by school absenteeism and truancy) adolescent girls showed a positive correlation between body-modification and negative feelings towards the body and self-esteem.”

Source

There can be health risks associated with getting tattoos and of course they hardly teach the lesson of thinking in the long term and not acting only for the present moment – one of the problems of our age.

I might add it is not in fact “radical” to be tattooed now. It is following the herd. In Britain, by contrast, it has now only become truly radical to assert any views which are not liberal.

Anyway, these things, especially the smoking, surprise me in many high profile Humanists, and they remind me that nothing necessarily unites non-believers. I believe such behaviour though provides an open goal to religious people who can then point to “atheist” decadence.

Meanwhile, this decadence is laughed about by the “Humanists” themselves. At the aforementioned social event, the argument was even propounded by a comedian that Islam could never succeed in a country where the official response to a terrorist threat was to drink beer. Funny, sure, but only perhaps in an embarrassing way – because, in fact, the precise opposite is the truth. If we were serious, we would admit that.

We’re fiddling, with our multicultural naivete, our moral relativism and our decadence, while Rome burns. Meanwhile, many Muslim women who are not being converted to modern, fashionable, nihilism, are at home having children. Islam has its values very clear, and respect for us doesn’t feature in them. Sometimes you can see why.

One of the greatest Humanist lectures I have ever heard took place, actually, here. At the Grace Fellowship church in Brevard County, Florida. It was a year or so ago now. The “preacher” made good point after good point, it has to be said. He spoke for example about the importance of being a good husband and father, the importance of the family unit, the importance of self control. He said “When someone asks you what you do, tell them your interests. Don’t allow yourself to be defined only by your job”. He made many very sound, Humanist points. He was confident of his values, and they were good values, which make a mockery of the nihilism, or the “protest for protest’s sake” commonly found here in the UK. He tacked Jesus on at the end now and then, of course, but this actually wasn’t necssary – the points stood up on their own.

Often religious people seem, at least overtly, to value decent behaviour more then non-religious people do. Some (even non-believers) therefore argue that religion is indeed desirable in society, on balance, the reason being that it is necessary as a guide for those who otherwise would be unable to live morally. Of course, not all of the advice in religious books is moral, but believers tend to turn a blind eye to the bad parts. Perhaps some do indeed need the threat of a God. I am undecided about this argument, the “Argument from Utility”. I know I do not need religion, but perhaps I should not judge everybody as I judge myself.

In any case, I find that sadly I do not often share the values of my fellow “Humanists”. I am more likely to share the values of Type 1 Christians, even though I do not share their metaphysical beliefs. A sad state of affairs indeed.

Geert Wilders coming to London again

Saturday 30th January 2010 23:27 in Politics, Religion | 137 views logged | No comments

Breaking news: Geert Wilders MP, currently being tried for speaking the truth in the Netherlands, has announced his intention to travel to the UK again to screen his short film Fitna.

Mr Wilders has again been invited by Lord Pearson and Baroness Cox and will travel to London to show the film in the House of Lords on 5th March.



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